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		<title>By: rizaalj</title>
		<link>http://clickmomukhamo.com/bangus/2005/01/09/debate-first-post/comment-page-1/#comment-4546</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"dura lex sed lex": you've got to live with it, man; or if don't like it, then search for another campground to stake your tent.¿comprendes, amigo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;dura lex sed lex&#8221;: you&#8217;ve got to live with it, man; or if don&#8217;t like it, then search for another campground to stake your tent.¿comprendes, amigo?</p>
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		<title>By: mon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one should consider a sex changed person like Guazon a woman under our laws for much the same reasons that nobody believes that Micheal jackson is White and that nobody believe that Orlando Bloom is an elf.  Spending a small nation's GDP on one's looks will not change that. 

These are just wonders of plastic surgery and make up that allow people to alter their PHYSICAL APPEARANCE. 
THese changes are limited in that they only change one's physique. Our LAW recognizes that it is birth and not an operation that confers legal personality. Wishfull thinking on the part of those who under go plastic surgery will not change that. 

The democratic principles of our Constitution mandate that our laws are the will of the people. So far the people have been silent on ways to change one's legal personality (after operations or otherwise)and the same will of the people has limited marriage to that of a man and a woman. There is no question of the democracy of these principles since of our Constitution was overwhelmingly approved by a majority of the people way back in 1986. 

This does not infringe upon the rights of sex changed individuals (SCI) since there is no statute that forbids this. In fact the silence of a statute shows the democratic principles of our Constitution at work since SCIs are in effect asking for special treatment as very few individuals can afford to spend so much on surgery. If granted, should the government then grant those making their ears more pointed special priveleges by allowing them to alter their legal personalities to reflect their ELVISHNESS? What about the Vulcans, the Klingons and God knows what surgery can produce?

Guazon cannot be treated as a woman by law, since his birth confered the legal personality of a man on him. The law does not condemn what he did but neither should it go against the democratic principles of our Constitution by granting him special priveleges such as the right to marry another man. If he wants people to treat him as a woman then that is truly a personal matter for him and his peers to sort out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one should consider a sex changed person like Guazon a woman under our laws for much the same reasons that nobody believes that Micheal jackson is White and that nobody believe that Orlando Bloom is an elf.  Spending a small nation&#8217;s GDP on one&#8217;s looks will not change that. </p>
<p>These are just wonders of plastic surgery and make up that allow people to alter their PHYSICAL APPEARANCE.<br />
THese changes are limited in that they only change one&#8217;s physique. Our LAW recognizes that it is birth and not an operation that confers legal personality. Wishfull thinking on the part of those who under go plastic surgery will not change that. </p>
<p>The democratic principles of our Constitution mandate that our laws are the will of the people. So far the people have been silent on ways to change one&#8217;s legal personality (after operations or otherwise)and the same will of the people has limited marriage to that of a man and a woman. There is no question of the democracy of these principles since of our Constitution was overwhelmingly approved by a majority of the people way back in 1986. </p>
<p>This does not infringe upon the rights of sex changed individuals (SCI) since there is no statute that forbids this. In fact the silence of a statute shows the democratic principles of our Constitution at work since SCIs are in effect asking for special treatment as very few individuals can afford to spend so much on surgery. If granted, should the government then grant those making their ears more pointed special priveleges by allowing them to alter their legal personalities to reflect their ELVISHNESS? What about the Vulcans, the Klingons and God knows what surgery can produce?</p>
<p>Guazon cannot be treated as a woman by law, since his birth confered the legal personality of a man on him. The law does not condemn what he did but neither should it go against the democratic principles of our Constitution by granting him special priveleges such as the right to marry another man. If he wants people to treat him as a woman then that is truly a personal matter for him and his peers to sort out</p>
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